Deep-Six the Notion of a “Deep State”

by Paul R. Pillar

Different interests, at different times and for different purposes, have promoted the idea of a “deep state” in the United States that supposedly affects American politics and policy.  That notion does not correspond to reality, it has no value in helping to understand American politics and policy, and it ought to be discarded.

The concept does correspond somewhat to situations in some foreign countries, with political systems much different from the one in the United States.  In such countries, the idea of a deep state is a statement about who exercises preeminent power, rather than about a challenge from some part of a security apparatus to those who do exercise it.  The concept could apply, for example, to Algeria, where, ever since revolution and independence, the greatest concentration of decision-making power has been with leadership of the military and security services, as implied by the label le pouvoir that has long been applied to that leadership.  Even more to the point is Russia, which is ruled at the top by ex-KGB man Vladimir Putin, assisted by numerous other security service types known as siloviki who occupy many influential positions throughout the regime and Russian economy that are not part of the security services at all.  Fortunately, the U.S. political system doesn’t look or operate anything like that.

A supposed American deep state is purported to involve intelligence agencies and perhaps other parts of the national security bureaucracy that collectively, and without checks or accountability from above or anywhere else, surreptitiously influence U.S. politics or policy for that bureaucracy’s own parochial reasons.  Anyone who has worked in that bureaucracy will recognize such a concept as fantasy rather than reality.  For those who have not worked there, the fundamental point to bear in mind in understanding why the deep state concept is fantasy concerns the raison d’être of the agencies involved and of the jobs of people who work there.  It’s all about objective and nonpartisan service, involving tasks such as collection or analysis of intelligence, under whatever political leadership the American people have elected.  If there were to be any straying from that ethic—which is as well-entrenched as any occupationally related culture—then the agencies involved and the individuals within them would become far more vulnerable than they are now.  There would be reason for each new political leadership to be able to fire the whole bunch.  Employees of the security agencies have no incentive to move things in that direction.

Those employees are self-selected; nobody gets conscripted into those agencies.  The work force in those places thus consists of people who are happiest to work apolitically for many years on their challenging but intriguing problems of collection or analysis or other tasks involved in securing the nation, and in return to forgo, as long as they are in the service, other ways of trying to influence national policy.  Those who do seek to practice other ways of influencing politics and policy find that they are misplaced and generally leave in favor of other careers.

The presumption that the bureaucracies concerned have a collective political intent, which is part of the notion of a deep state, runs up against two problems.  One is that political preferences are not worn on sleeves in these places, and not discussed in the course of doing the work, because there is no good reason to discuss them.  If there were some community of political intent within those bureaucracies, it would be hard for the people who supposedly are part of such a community to discover the community in the first place.  The second problem is that to the extent one can glean political preferences indirectly—through things, such as bumper stickers on cars in agency parking lots, that do not violate the Hatch Act—one would see that people who work in these agencies, like other Americans, exhibit a diversity of preferences.

The influence of agencies that are part of the national security bureaucracy tends to vary directly with how well they have performed their prescribed, proper mission.  Richard Helms, who was director of central intelligence during Lyndon Johnson’s administration, reportedly won a seat at Johnson’s influential Tuesday lunch table after the president was favorably impressed by the CIA’s accurate analysis, produced before the 1967 Middle East war, about the impending outbreak and likely outcome of the war.  The connection between influence and doing one’s proper job well is just one reason, and not necessarily the most important reason, why doing that job well, and not letting it be corrupted by manipulation that serves some other purpose, is the overriding objective of those who work in the intelligence and security agencies.  Professional pride and a sense of responsibility certainly are reasons.  So is ambition and a desire for personal success.  For intelligence officers, making a correct call wins kudos; making a bad one means a black eye.

If bad calls were to be made intentionally to serve some supposed deep state purpose, the badness eventually would be uncovered.  This observation certainly applies to the recent intelligence community judgments regarding Russian interference in U.S. elections.  That topic is now the subject of inquiries by Congressional committees, and possibly by other bodies.  If such inquiries were to conclude that the earlier judgments were incorrect, that would be a big black eye for the intelligence community, and deservedly so.  It is hard to imagine anyone in the intelligence community desiring such a result.

Accusations about leaking have been a customary part of rhetoric about a deep state, and such accusations lose sight of two relevant realities.  One is that the leaker is not necessarily to be found in whatever department or agency originated the document or information that was leaked.  Intelligence products are distributed widely throughout the government; a leak of intelligence or an intelligence judgment did not necessarily come out of an intelligence agency.  The other is that employees of intelligence agencies have more to fear for their jobs and careers, and thus more of a deterrent against any temptation to leak, than do most other government employees, given the special security scrutiny, including periodic polygraph examinations, to which they are subjected regarding their handling of classified information.

A traditional purveyor of the deep state notion for years has been a body of opinion, concentrated mainly on the political left, that holds that the national security bureaucracy and the intelligence community in particular distorts its judgments and hypes threats in order to sustain or increase their budgets.  Most recently, this idea has been applied to the intelligence judgments regarding the Russian interference in the U.S. election, with the specific idea being that this is a hyping of a Russian threat for budget-sustaining reasons.  Besides all of the reasons given above that this idea is invalid, the accusation also does not square with historical experience.  The intelligence community did not seem to be hyping, for example, any Russian (then Soviet) threat in the 1970s, when the main challenge to its judgments about Soviet strategic forces came from those who thought intelligence community estimates on that subject were not alarmist enough and got President Ford to establish a “Team B” to come up with a different estimate.  More generally, the ebb and flow of national security spending has had far less to do with the tone or details of intelligence community judgments than with other forces or events, such as what a terrorist group does (leading to the U.S. intervention in the Afghanistan War) or what intelligence community-hating neoconservatives do (leading to the Iraq War).  Besides, there is no clear and direct connection that should exist, any more than it does exist, between an intelligence judgment about any specific threat and the overall need for spending on intelligence.  It is less the level of threat from Moscow or any other place than it is the uncertainty of threats that implies a need for intelligence.  With threats that are clear enough for us to understand based on other sources of information, we don’t need intelligence.

Now the idea of a deep state is being promoted from an additional direction: President Trump and defenders.  Here we are seeing another application of Trump’s technique, which he learned at the feet of Roy Cohn, Joseph McCarthy’s sidekick, always to strike back at any source of embarrassing information and never to admit or apologize for anything.  Amid the battering the president and the administration have taken over the multifaceted issue of relations with the Russians, attacking the intelligence community as the core of a supposed deep state is just one more application of this technique.

Looking at both these applications of the notion of a deep state exposes one of the contradictions in the notion itself.  The intelligence community budget tends to rise or fall with the overall defense budget.  Trump has proposed an increase in defense spending even while slashing most of the rest of the federal budget.  If those supposed deep staters really were most concerned about their budget, they would be supporting Trump and would have no reason to undermine him.  So much for the idea that intelligence estimates about things like Russian behavior are shaped by the estimators’ budget concerns.  And so much for the idea that the intelligence community has a selfish and narrow motivation to undermine Trump.  The intelligence community does not have a problem with the budget, and Trump does not have a genuine problem with the intelligence community; he has a problem with the truth.

This article was first published by the National Interest and was reprinted here with permission. Copyright The National Interest. Photo: Roy Cohn, Donald Trump, Steve Rubell of Studio 54, and Ivana Trump.

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  1. “The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn’t exist.” One can prove the non-existence of anything by narrowly defining it to exclude what it actually is. Pillar dissembles by defining the Deep State as a collection of bureaucracies and then demonstrating how that collection cannot be the Deep State rather than defining the power elite and their overarching, interconnected, dovetailed interests (financial, military-industrial, intelligence, energy, transnational corporate, etc) who select, anoint, and at times remove those who appoint those bureaucracies to function at their behest as the actual Deep State. To watch the concerted actions of the corrupt HRC-DNC party machine, their NeoCon-R2P fellow travelers, the feckless quasi-fascist GOP, and the intelligence agencies all working in unison to undo the Trump election by hook or by crook (more the latter) and to deny the existence of a ‘Deep State’ is the kind of anti-factual denial of reality one would expect in a tweet from the current Occupant.

  2. Mr. Pillar re-defines the deep state as meaning a clandestine cabal that pulls all of the pertinent strings of governance. However, as the term has been used in relation to the U.S. government, its meaning is confined to the inertia of agencies, think tanks, contractors, and other beneficiaries of subsidy The Deep State also refers to the synergy between the think tanks, administrative personnel, and entrenched party machinery, on the one hand, and the media (which includes, these days, astroturfed interest groups), on the other. The liberal commentariat’s shameless shilling for Hillary provided ample evidence of this synergy, and now the Russophobia narrative echoes as loudly as the inevitability resounded.

    Mr. Pillar also claims that the deep state concept presumes agencies and the bureaucrats that work within them to be fiercely partisan. It doesn’t. Actually, this aspect of bureaucratic culture is not contained within what deep state is meant to imply, but, now that he brings it up, what is objectionable about government service culture is that it is religiously careerist. Salaries, perquisites, benefits, parking spaces and pensions are the purview of the gs-xx employee; public policy, the commonweal, and zeitgeist can go hang. It’s not that they’re above partisan differences or sagely inured to them: They don’t give a flying fuck. As long as they get theirs, any sense of mission has long ago dissipated. And this is one of the exact qualities of the deep state that has barred its fangs at the scent of Trump. He has threatened to dislodge them, put them on the dole, mess with their breakfast. They have messed with his legitimacy because he has made that threat. Hillary promised to keep them in clover, so she was just fine. About Romney and Obama, or previous contenders, they didn’t much care, the up or downside being too fractional to be worth a fuss.

    Paul would have us simply believe that Trump is a liar, and so confounds the issue of who is the deep state, an ironic endorsement of that entity’s existence. As Mike Lofgrin detailed in a book of the same name, the Deep State is shorthand for who really wields power in Washington. We know it’s not any democratic reckoning of the citizenry, so what we are left with, occluded though our vision may be, is what Trump is at war with, or what is at war with itself.

  3. I must agree with marshalldoc on this. Paul Pillar, believe it or not, sounds very naive and his arguments are weak.
    “collection or analysis of intelligence, under whatever political leadership the American people have elected.” sounds good, but Gilens and Page in their analysis in 2014 showed that what the American people want is rarely what is passed by the “lawmakers” in Congress, who support the very rich. The sudden demonization of Russia by Democrats,( after Trump had wanted to reduce tensions),at once being conveniently accepted by all the intelligence agencies, is very suspicious,.

  4. Since other states appear to have copyrighted the term “deep state,” I guess Americans will just have to choose another label for the cabal of Washington insiders who constitute a threat to what’s left of American democracy.

    Maybe Paul Pillar should duke it out with Jason Hirthler, who’s got a newish article at CounterPunch in which he applies Mike Lofgren’s page-turner on the American Deep State, which “includes the Department of Defense, the State Department, the National Intelligence Agencies, Wall Street, the defense industry, and the energy consortium, among other major private players. They share common agendas, operate a revolving door of employees, and have a collective distaste for democracy, transparency, and regulation” (Hirthler paraphrasing Lofgren) — which makes perfect sense to me.

  5. I almost fell off my chair laughing reading this piece. Hasn’t Mr. Pillar heard of Wikileaks trove of information on CIA’s hacking tools? They put NSA to shame. Overthrowing governments, drug smuggling, gun trafficking, drone assassinations, their list of accomplishments goes on and on. Truman said something to this effect that “if I knew CIA will get involved in cloak and dagger operations, I would not have created it in the first place” and this was well before Eisenhower’s statement about military-industrial complex as being the greatest threat to our democracy. There is a petition circulating in Internet asking for the abolition of CIA. I think that may be a timely idea that merits the attention of citizens of our country,

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