Russiagate or Deep State?

by John Feffer

When it comes to the Russiagate scandal, progressives usually take one of two positions.

They either dismiss the scandal as a lot of hooey, a “nothingburger,” just a way for warmongers and the “Deep State” to revive a cold war between Washington and Moscow. Or they treat the scandal as just a means to an end, a way to cast doubt on the 2016 presidential election, implicate the administration in a variety of crimes, and ultimately impeach the president.

Both of these positions are wrong.

last wrote about the perplexing positions of some progressives on Russia back in March 2015, long before the Russiagate scandal and the 2016 elections. At the time, I was trying to understand why some progressives were bending over backwards to excuse the actions of Russian President Vladimir Putin, both domestically (his authoritarianism) and externally (his meddling along the periphery of Russia and further afield in Syria).

Putin, I argued, was an autocrat, an anti-progressive nationalist, and an imperialist wannabe. By all means, the United States should negotiate treaties with Russia and avoid a resurgent cold war, I maintained, but progressives should have no illusions about the nature of the current wielder of power in the Kremlin.

What had once been a strange sideshow of geopolitics has now, with the election of Donald Trump, become the main act. And the bizarre overlap in positions between some elements of the left and the right about Russiagate does not bode well for the future of American politics.

The stakes, in other words, are far greater than the fate of the current president of the United States. Why focus on Russiagate when we face possible nuclear war in Korea, a slow-motion apocalypse through climate change, and growing economic inequality worldwide? Because Russiagate points to a new kind of politics, in the United States and elsewhere, that makes resolution of these crises increasingly difficult.

Yes, the U.S. status quo before Russiagate was grossly unfair. The future status quo, a world of continuous Russiagates, will be grossly unfair and authoritarian as well.

Addressing the Skeptics

The Russia scandal has scrambled the political spectrum. Consider the case of Glenn Greenwald, the journalist based in Brazil who writes for The Intercept.

Greenwald has emerged as one of the prominent skeptics of the investigation into collaboration between the Trump campaign and the Russians. Once a fixture in the progressive media for his dissection of the national security state, he is now more frequently cited by the far right in its efforts to discredit the investigation run by Robert Mueller. The journalist used to chat regularly with MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow, but now he’s more likely to appear with Tucker Carlson on Fox News.

“I used to be really good friends with Rachel Maddow,” Greenwald told New York magazine. “And I’ve seen her devolution from this really interesting, really smart, independent thinker into this utterly scripted, intellectually dishonest, partisan hack.”

Wow, that’s harsh.

Greenwald is not alone. You can find skeptical articles about Russiagate at The Nation, Counterpunch, Consortium News, and many other progressive outlets. And these articles can be equally scathing about the journalists, mainstream or otherwise, that take the investigation seriously.

Over at The Nation, Russia specialist Stephen Cohen regularly challenges the emerging narrative, most recently suggesting that the intelligence community essentially fabricated Russiagate, which has generated in turn a different scandal — he calls it “Intelgate” — even larger than Watergate.

I cut my Sovietology teeth on Stephen Cohen and have always had tremendous respect for him. I certainly understand his desire to counter the demonization of all things Russian and his skepticism of the organs of U.S. national security. But he seems to have lost sight of the fact that the two principal groups of actors in this saga — the Trump team and the Putin people — are ruthless operators who have imported their mafia style into democratic politics.

Remember: The enemy of my enemy, even if that enemy is the U.S. national security state, is not necessarily my friend!

Consortium News, meanwhile, likes to give voice to former intelligence operatives. For example, former CIA analyst Philip Giraldi accepts the charges in the recent Nunes memo at face value and asserts that Israel, not Russia, played a much more prominent role in determining the 2016 election. Former CIA analyst Ray McGovern, also at Consortium News, believes that he can prove that the FBI, on behalf of the “Deep State,” is out to get the Trump administration.

But really it’s the same old material that Fox News has been trumpeting. I suppose it takes one to know one, but I suspect these former operatives have other axes to grind in this fight. Hell hath no fury like an intelligence operative scorned.

At Counterpunch, meanwhile, political economist Rob Urie argues that Russian involvement in the 2016 election is a “red herring” because, essentially, it has not been proven that any voter changed his or her mind as a result of Russian influence. Oh, and there isn’t any proof anyway of Russian meddling — or, if there is “proof,” it comes from unreliable sources. And if Russia engaged in such meddling, it had good reason to do so, given U.S. foreign policy maneuvers in Ukraine and elsewhere.

There’s a lot here to parse (which I will do below). But let’s return to Greenwald, because his perch at The Intercept is so influential.

Most of the time, Greenwald has delighted in revealing what the mainstream media has gotten wrong on the Russia story. In September, he ridiculed reports of Russian hacking of 21 state election systems, which turned out to be, in some cases, misreported. But some overly hasty conclusions don’t entirely discredit the entire story. The Department of Homeland Security first mentioned the attempted hacks in June 2017 but noted that it did not affect any votes. Again, this month, the head of cybersecurity for DHS, Jeanette Manfra, repeated the same claim.

Perhaps DHS is continuing to engage in disinformation. But Greenwald didn’t bother to write anything about Illinois, the one specific and rather well-documented case of Russian hacking that did manage to penetrate a state system (again without having any impact on the election results).

Also escaping his scrutiny have been the reports I mentioned in last week’s column: Dutch surveillance of Cozy Bear in Moscow as the operation hacked into the Democratic National Committee and the trial in Russia of a hacker who described receiving orders from the Russian Federal Security Service (FSB) “to attack the DNC’s servers for the purpose of manipulating the U.S. electoral process.”

Okay, so the U.S. media has made mistakes in its coverage of Russiagate. It’s not exactly a transparent story. And it’s very useful for journalists to keep other journalists honest (not to mention government officials).

But Greenwald is after something different. He is out to discredit all claims of Russia’s malign conduct. In a recent article, he made a list of all the “false” claims involving Russia — interference in the Brexit vote, responsibility for the #releasethememo Twitter campaign, intervention in the recent German and French elections — alongside the “corrections.”

These dismissals are too casual. The jury is still out on how much Russian social media presence influenced the Brexit vote. Greenwald cites a Senate report on Russian bots using Twitter and Facebook in large numbers then “refutes” the report with an article on YouTube’s denial of Russian interference. Well, those are very different platforms. Greenwald is skeptical that the #releasethememo Twitter campaign was, in part, Russian-influenced, but cites as proof an article with a single anonymous source. On Russian involvement in the German election, he identifies a New York Times article with the headline: “German Election Mystery: Why No Russian Meddling?” But he neglects to investigate the deeper Russian involvement — in cultivating the far-right Alternative fur Deutschland, supporting its messages on social media, and unleashing a botnet onslaught in the final hours of the campaign (a story that broke after The New York Times article but well before Greenwald’s putative takedown).

Finally, Greenwald points to an AP article refuting Russian involvement in a celebrated hacking of Emmanuel Macron’s election campaign. Perhaps Fancy Bear was not involving in phishing schemes, as investigators allege. But, as with Germany, Russia was involved in other ways, primarily through support for the National Front and Marine Le Pen.

In other words, the exposure of one poorly reported story on Russia — or even a dozen such embarrassments — does not mean that Russiagate or reports of Russian interference in European elections are “fake news.” Greenwald should know better, as a lawyer and a journalist. He’s pissed at the Democratic Party for running a lousy presidential campaign. He’s pissed at the Obama administration for its drone and surveillance policies. Fair enough. But please, do us a favor and look at all the evidence instead of playing the blinkered prosecutor.

Now let’s take a look at some of the other efforts to debunk this supposed myth.

Countering the Counter-Narrative

One of the major arguments of the skeptics is that Russian interference, even if there was some, didn’t influence the election because it was only a trivial amount of Twittering, Facebook ads, and trolling. Okay, perhaps that’s true. But Russian hacking was not just bots and trolls. The release of the results of the DNC hacking turned out to be quite damaging for the Clinton campaign.

But frankly, this isn’t the most important question. The election is over, and the Democratic Party should own up to its failures rather than blame it on some other party, be it Bernie Sanders, the Green Party, the Russians, or the deplorables.

Instead, the investigation should focus on only two things — the Trump campaign’s complicity and safeguarding future elections. Any interference in U.S. elections — whether from a foreign power or domestic actors trying to suppress voter turnout — should be taken very seriously.

A corollary to the “Russia didn’t really do anything” argument is that other countries had greater impact on the elections. The two countries usually cited are Israel and Mexico.

Certainly Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has shown a fondness for Donald Trump, and hardline pro-Israel donors Sheldon and Miriam Adelson poured millions into the Trump campaign. But there were also plenty of friends of Israel pushing in the opposite direction because of an authentic fondness for Hillary Clinton, or because of authentic fears of the anti-Semitic forces supporting Trump. As for Mexico’s meddling, this is largely a right-wing rant about how immigrants are subverting America, not about Mexico trying to sway any particular election.

Then there’s the argument that Russia wasn’t doing anything that the United States hadn’t done over the years. It’s certainly true that the United States has engaged in such conduct. So? It has also been involved in the assassination of foreign figures. Would that justify another country taking out the U.S. president? Do U.S. regime-change efforts in Afghanistan and Iraq justify another power taking over Washington DC and setting up a puppet government?

It’s always useful to point out U.S. hypocrisy. But this should be done in order to reform U.S. policy — not to excuse other countries for acting in similarly reprehensible ways.

Finally, let’s talk about the so-called Deep State.

I have to be honest. I’m not really sure what the “Deep State” is. Given that the pushback against Trump has been widespread, does the “Deep State” include all the judges who have blocked the administration’s immigration plans? Does it encompass all the career bureaucrats who refuse to go along with the anti-regulatory fervor at the Environmental Protection Agency, the Energy Department, and elsewhere in the federal system?

Should we include whistleblowers who are aghast at the abuses of power? What about the “Washington playbook” that pushed for military solutions during the Obama era but has also resisted Trump’s more radical proposals?

Obviously such an amorphous entity lacks any meaningful coherence. So, let’s assume that it’s just the intelligence community and elements of the Justice Department and the FBI that are “out to get” Trump because he’s a rogue president.

Stephen Cohen argues that the intelligence community targeted Trump during the Obama administration and continues to push its agenda. But this is more usually an argument from the right wing. As Fox Business Network host Lou Dobbs put it, “It may be time to declare war outright against the deep state and clear out the rot in the upper levels of the FBI and the Justice Department.”

I’m quite sure that there are a lot of folks at the FBI, the Justice Department, and the intelligence agencies who are freaked out about Trump. The president shows little interest in intelligence briefings, has casually given away sensitive information and shown no regard for security protocols, has sought to politicize intelligence, has given highest-level security access to people like his son-in-law without proper vetting, supports all manner of lawbreakers (Joe Arpaioneo-Nazis at Charlottesville, sexual harassers left and right), has defied the emoluments clause of the Constitution, and so on.

Is it remotely possible that intelligence agencies are genuinely worried about Russian interference? At the latest congressional hearing on Russia’s gearing up for the U.S. midterm elections, even Trump’s Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats and CIA chief Mike Pompeo expressed their very clear concerns about Russian interference, directly contradicting their commander in chief.

Forget the Deep State. The intelligence agencies are just doing their day job — which I often don’t like, but which I also don’t think is conspiratorial against Trump.

Moreover, might Greenwald and others consider the possibility that a number of federal actors are pursuing investigations of Trump and his colleagues because this is how a democratic system operates?

It’s not a question of partisan squabbling. It’s not a question of some shadowy group of operatives trying to take down the president in secret. This is an open investigation, by people who call themselves Democrats and Republicans and independents, into the potential violations of the U.S. law by a presidential candidate and now a current president.

To the extent that these operators began to investigate Trump during the Obama administration, they only did so in a partial and, given the potential enormity of the threat, frankly half-hearted way. Now, when the very rule of law is threatened, the institutions of American democracy are arguably doing their job.

Ultimately, the strengthening of the rule of law and of democratic process — not the impeachment of the president — should be the goal of these investigations. Yes, it shouldn’t be just anyrule of law (apartheid was a rule of law, after all), but rather a rule of law informed by all the social movements that have shaped it. And it shouldn’t be just any democratic process (Putin is an elected leader, after all), but it should be a democracy of citizens informed by a free press and influenced as little as possible by big money and the machinations of foreign governments.

Impeachment, however satisfying, would be just a quick fix to the more serious threats Trumpism poses to democracy and rule of law.

Trump is leading the country in the opposite direction, and he’s doing so to a large extent by trampling on U.S. laws and institutions. If that isn’t clear to Greenwald and others, then they’re missing the big picture even as they get so many of the details wrong as well.

Republished, with permission, from Foreign Policy In Focus.

John Feffer

John Feffer is the director of Foreign Policy In Focus at the Institute for Policy Studies. He is also the author, most recently, of Aftershock: A Journey into Eastern Europe's Broken Dreams (Zed Books). He is also the author of the dystopian Splinterlands trilogy (Dispatch Books). He is a former Open Society fellow, PanTech fellow, and Scoville fellow, and his articles have appeared in The New York Times, Washington Post, Los Angeles Review of Books, Salon, and many other publications.



  1. WOW…lots of words, boiling down to the notion that the Russians did it….without recognizing that it is a convenient way to divert our attention from the sordid state this country is in. As the daughter of a Dutch journalist I was raised not to believe anything I read…Read as much as you can and then YOU decide what truth is. It is always somewhere in the middle. A piece of advice ignore whatever the Dutch claim on Russia. It’s origin is the CIA. Dutch politicians lie with a straight face. I watch Dutch News every day, not for its “incredible news” but for the lies it tells. It is word for word translated from the English BS we read here in the MSM.
    I have known for years that whenever we (U.S) accuse some world leader of nefarious actions, we can be damn sure that WE, ourselves engage in it.
    Would it surprise you that there has not been ONE election in Europe in which the CIA did not meddle? So because WE do it, therefore Russia does it? It’s laughable!. . Do you know that the EU is a Washington construct? That the EU Commission consists of unelected folks, all of whom are under the direction of Washington??.
    So here is a Dutch (dual) national who would like nothing better than have the EU dissolve tomorrow morning 8 AM sharp….to get rid of NATO which is nothing more than an American aggressive force that requires all its members to participate in war crimes/terror around the globe.
    Currently Dutch F-16 (part of the coalition) are participating in war crimes by bombing Syrian civilians.
    Perhaps you care to answer WHY Germany has been occupied by the U.S since 1945.
    It has something to do with what happened in 1870…..THAT caused every war in Europe.
    Every war is based on lies. Start in 1870

    PS numerous European citizens of various countries have expressed a wish to “borrow President Putin” instead of their own leaders all of whom do Washington’s bidding. They prefer Putin. That should give you pause.

  2. So, what’s Feffer’s alternative? Clintonism (i.e.; rigged primaries, fudged interview questions, a boundless sense of political entitlement, and a pathological failure to accept blame & reality)? Pass…

    I keep waiting for an honest pundit to state plainly: “The American political System Is broken beyond repair and Neither side of the Janus-headed Demopublican duopoly has offered anything more than the Einsteinian definition of ‘insanity’ as a solution’.

    It’s time to take off our shades ’cause the future ain’t lookin’ all that bright!

  3. John Feffer’s effort to validate the Russiagate scandal–that the Russians (equated with Putin) tried to manipulate our 2016 election–is a bit of a reach. I believe there is indeed a scandal, but it has to do with Trump and Russian money. If there is something that relates to the 2016 election, we haven’t seen it. From what we do know, it seems implausible because the main events–the hacking of Debbie Wasserman Schultz’s and John Podesta’s computers–were so amateurish and easy almost anyone could have done it. Podesta’s assistant was conned into giving up the password. It doesn’t have the markings of some super-sophisticated cyber command. A 14-year old could have done that. And what were the main revelations? That the Clinton crowd controlled the DNC and illegally, or at least unethically, undermined Bernie. Does the Democratic Party have any grounds for complaining that this got out before the election? The Hillary position seems to be: if only she could have hidden her underhanded actions a little longer she might have won.

    But let’s move on. The believers in Russia/Putin manipulating the election cite the January 2017 CIA-FBI-NSA report. It is a pathetically incompetent 5-page report, thin on facts, that contains the following seldom quoted curious bit about whether Putin “aspired to help” Trump by discrediting Hillary: “CIA and FBI have high confidence in this judgment; NSA has moderate confidence.” Anyone who knows anything about the bureaucracy knows that the NSA saying it has moderate confidence in this context means it has no confidence but has to go along.

    The bulk of the report–the writing of which a high school student would be ashamed–consists of a diatribe against the Russian TV network RT. Among the charges against it is that in 2016 it “broadcast, hosted, and advertised third-party candidate debates” Imagine that. Also, “RT aired a documentary about the Occupy Wall Street movement . . . and described the current US political system as corrupt and dominated by corporations.” Finally, “RT runs anti-fracking programming, highlighting environmental issues and the impacts on public health” to undermine America’s energy programs. I watch RT occasionally and the truth is that it is the closest thing there is to a Bernie Sanders network.

    Anyhow, if it really happened, there isn’t much in the public record to go on as far as Russia/Putin’s manipulation of our election. So why are the Democrats making so much of it. The answer is probably some combination of the two reasons that John Feffer rejects. In doing so they are making the mistake of diverting attention from Trump’s greater vulnerability–his money dealings with Russians, likely shady, and very possibly illegal, dealings with which Putin is no doubt intimately familiar.

    We have to hope that Robert Mueller will not be making that mistake.

  4. In a roundabout way John tries to convince us that Russiagate is real. He “refutes” journalists’ position simply by implying they don’t know what they are talking about (summed up in his last sentence).

    More seriously, John does not even bother to discuss the refutation by real experts, such as Scott Ritter, Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity, Bill Binney.

    John, by this shabby “refutation” & roundabout way of keeping a nonsensical, moribund issue alive damages your credibility more than possible shortcomings there may be in those who have really looked at the issue.

  5. Shameful article from Lobelog, I’ve bn a huge fan for years, n often c LL as my only true balanced honest source of news, but this one article almost completely undid all that. I was ganna go on a rant but all the other comments above encapsulate what I was going to say more eloquently. John tries to, in a sneaky back handed way, to come across as very fair, analytical, intellectual and unbiased person but it’s very apparent that all he’s trying to do is portray anyone who believes that Trump is a symptom of a broken, corrupt bought and paid for political system that has for decades ignored the suffering of its own ppl all the while pouring trillions of $s in an out of control military as a hack n a simpleton. Putin is an authoritarian dictator but he didn’t invade Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, kill n displace millions of innocent civilians, torture n illegally imprison ppl in black sites, back far right neo-nazis in Ukraine. Putin is not the reason young ppl can’t afford collage, don’t gve healthcare, don’t gve a living wage or $1000 in their bank account. That is all the US of A. So need to take ur xenophobic rose tinted glasses off n Hve a hard look at ur system. The final paragraph sums it up for me when he states: “Trump is leading the country in the opposite direction, and he’s doing so to a large extent by trampling on U.S. laws and institutions. If that isn’t clear to Greenwald and others, then they’re missing the big picture”…that is deliberate attempt at distorting the reality since that is exactly what the left has been saying: Trump has miserable/terrible policies (health, tax, immigration) n if we confront him n fight him on the issues with true populist left principles we’ll easily defeat him n win over many if his voters, but instead the liberal intelligentsia keeps shouting “Ruskies are coming!!” which only goes to help Trump. So good try John

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